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Author:  Raven Hawk [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  2019 Hall of Legends
Per the constitution:
# Before the start of the previous season's playoffs, the Director shall create a thread in the CFL Forum entitled "Hall of Legends Nominations."

# Any current owner, former owner, or fan may nominate any eligible player for nomination by
posting a reply in the Hall of Legends Nominations thread.

# The voting period shall begin at the start of the first free agency period and end at midnight EST before the training camp stage is simulated.

# All votes shall be cast by secret ballot submitted to the Hall of Fame Director by Private Message (PM) on the CFL Forum. Only current team owners may vote and only one vote shall be cast per team.

# To be inducted, a player must receive 20 votes from the Committee of the Whole, or 75% of votes cast (minimum of 20 votes cast).

To make a nomination:

Post the players name and a brief blurb about why they deserve to be in the Hall of Legends.

It's also helpful if you post the unicode that will link to the player's page on the website: [ player ] [ /player ] without the spaces.

[b2f7a9a8][color=blue2f7a9a8]Please post nominations in BLUE font.[/color2f7a9a8][/b2f7a9a8]
[b2f7a9a8]All discussion regarding players' merits should be in BLACK.[/b2f7a9a8]

[b2f7a9a8][size=182f7a9a8]List of 2019 Nominees[/size2f7a9a8][/b2f7a9a8]

[player]Branden Eastman[/player] - K - Texas
[player]Branden Lin[/player] - QB - Boise
[player]Ethan Capoccia[/player] - C - Santa Cruz
[player]Tim Atkins[/player] - MLB - Santa Cruz
[player]Willie Golalic[/player] - CB - Atlantic City
[player]Alan Spearman[/player] - RB - Hartford
[player]Kelvin Battle[/player] - G - Charleston
Anthony Jennings - RB - Las Vegas
Author:  fantastic flying froggies [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:30 am ]
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As nominated by mistakes in the 2018 thread:

[quote9bd7780="Doug5984"]As you said- no people that are first ballot HOFers

[player]Douglas Hartman[/player] is good, but to me doe NOT get a nomination...

And then what to do about a player like [player]Branden Eastman[/player], # 1 all time, but never once all-pro. How does the league feel about kickers...

[player]Branden Lin[/player]- I'm a fan of his, put up some solid numbers, not great but he always had a good RB with him, very consistent with a career rating of 95.4 144 wins is damn good as well.


[player]Ethan Capoccia[/player]- I don't know where he ranks among Cs for all time blocks and such, but he has to be near the top of the list. A great player, but again a position that doesn't really get the hype of others around him.

[player]Tim Atkins[/player]- You get 1,200 tackles in 11 years as a starter and you have to be mentioned for the Hall of Legends.

[player]Willie Golalic[/player]- Look at the #s, he gets my vote.

[player]Alan Spearman[/player]- Same as Golalic, amazing numbers- short career, don't see how he doesn't get in.

[player]George Welton[/player]- The best FB to ever play in the CFL, I'd like to put him up for vote again- I think he really should be in there.


Just went through the transaction log, wanted to post some players to get some discussion going on them.[/quote9bd7780]

and

[quote9bd7780="JJ Smitty"][player]Kelvin Battle[/player] [color=blue9bd7780]don't forget him , he has the number's and the pro bowl's. Also, he finished his career with 37 straight games without giving up a sack.

[b9bd7780]Stats;[/b9bd7780]

376 KRB - 1st for Guards, 5th in the league Overall,

1 Championship

Pro Bowl's in 2010,11,13,15,16[/color9bd7780][/quote9bd7780]
Author:  3ric [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:29 am ]
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The eligible retirees from last season:
http://thecfl.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4665
Author:  TurfToe [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:52 pm ]
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[color=blue8e57957]Anthony Jennings - RB[/color8e57957]

Anthony Jenings was drafted by the Rounders and brought along slowly for the first two years, starting only 3 games. During that time he demonstrated a knack for returning kicks by returning 69 kicks for 1844 yards and 1 TD. Even after taking the Rounders RB starting job and toting the rock for 8 straight seasons, he continued to be the league's most dominating kick returner totalling 11,383 kick return yards on 391 returns (29.1 yard average) with 9 TD's. These would be amazing numbers for a dedicated kick returner and exceeds the next best returner by nearly 2,000 yards, except he has also accomplished the following as a starting RB:

#22 Rushing Attempts
#23 Rushing Yards
#6 Rushing TD's
#3 All-Time All-Purpose Yards (trails only RB greats Alan Spearman and Burt Liszkiewicz)

Both of the RB's in front of him on the All-Time All-Purpose Yards list have over 4,000 yards receiving compared to Jennings' 787 yards. Jennings was a power runner who was not utilized in the Jackpot-centric vertical passing game. His numbers indicate that as a top-25 runner from a yards and attempt perspective, he was extremely efficient in scoring, ranking as the #6 rushing-TD scorer all-time.

As a kick returner, he holds the following leaderboard spots:

#1 Kick Returns
#1 Kick Return Yards
#1 Kick Return TD's

Not only does Anthony Jennings deserve a spot in the Hall of Legends based on his ability as a kick returner, but he does so as a kick returner with significant contributions as a starting running back.

He has set the bar for kick returners for generations to come. This bar may never be met.
Author:  Raven Hawk [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:48 am ]
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Voting booths are open. Please go to the owners lounge and vote on the players who have been nominated.
Author:  Raven Hawk [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:46 pm ]
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I'm calling the voting as we've got enough votes to make the decision. Sorry for the delay this year, guys.
[b9ec85d8]
Congrats to our Class of 2019:[/b9ec85d8]
CB - [player]Willie Golalic[/player] - Atlantic City - 100%
RB - [player]Alan Spearman[/player] - Hartford - 95%
G - [player]Kelvin Battle[/player] - Charleston - 94%
C - [player]Ethan Capoccia[/player] - Santa Cruz - 78%
MLB - [player]Tim Atkins[/player] - Santa Cruz -76%


[b9ec85d8]Sorry guys, try again in 2020:[/b9ec85d8]
RB - [player]Anthony Jennings[/player] - Las Vegas - 61%
QB - [player]Branden Lin[/player] - Boise - 56%
K - [player]Branden Eastman[/player] - Texas -41%

Apparently 2019 was not the year of the Branden.
Author:  Masked [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:02 pm ]
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[quote43f1d2f="Raven Hawk"]I'm calling the voting as we've got enough votes to make the decision. Sorry for the delay this year, guys.
[b43f1d2f]
Congrats to our Class of 2019:[/b43f1d2f]
CB - [player]Willie Golalic[/player] - Atlantic City - 100%
RB - [player]Alan Spearman[/player] - Hartford - 95%
G - [player]Kelvin Battle[/player] - Charleston - 94%
C - [player]Ethan Capoccia[/player] - Santa Cruz - 78%
MLB - [player]Tim Atkins[/player] - Santa Cruz -76%


[b43f1d2f]Sorry guys, try again in 2020:[/b43f1d2f]
RB - [player]Anthony Jennings[/player] - Las Vegas - 61%
QB - [player]Branden Lin[/player] - Boise - 56%
K - [player]Branden Eastman[/player] - Texas -41%

Apparently 2019 was not the year of the Branden.[/quote43f1d2f]

Very nice to see Spearman voted in. He should be joined by Oberg next season. I'm only left with one questions, why would anyone vote against Spearman?
Author:  TurfToe [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:43 pm ]
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[quoteb9db84b="Raven Hawk"]I'm calling the voting as we've got enough votes to make the decision. Sorry for the delay this year, guys.
[bb9db84b]
Congrats to our Class of 2019:[/bb9db84b]
CB - [player]Willie Golalic[/player] - Atlantic City - 100%
RB - [player]Alan Spearman[/player] - Hartford - 95%
G - [player]Kelvin Battle[/player] - Charleston - 94%
C - [player]Ethan Capoccia[/player] - Santa Cruz - 78%
MLB - [player]Tim Atkins[/player] - Santa Cruz -76%


[bb9db84b]Sorry guys, try again in 2020:[/bb9db84b]
RB - [player]Anthony Jennings[/player] - Las Vegas - 61%
QB - [player]Branden Lin[/player] - Boise - 56%
K - [player]Branden Eastman[/player] - Texas -41%

Apparently 2019 was not the year of the Branden.[/quoteb9db84b]

Another year and another opportunity for me to scratch my head in wonder.

How do I unsubscribe to the Hall of Legends and renew my subscription to the in-game Hall of Fame? :roll:
Author:  TurfToe [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:44 pm ]
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[quote4159ce0="Masked"][quote4159ce0="Raven Hawk"]I'm calling the voting as we've got enough votes to make the decision. Sorry for the delay this year, guys.
[b4159ce0]
Congrats to our Class of 2019:[/b4159ce0]
CB - [player]Willie Golalic[/player] - Atlantic City - 100%
RB - [player]Alan Spearman[/player] - Hartford - 95%
G - [player]Kelvin Battle[/player] - Charleston - 94%
C - [player]Ethan Capoccia[/player] - Santa Cruz - 78%
MLB - [player]Tim Atkins[/player] - Santa Cruz -76%


[b4159ce0]Sorry guys, try again in 2020:[/b4159ce0]
RB - [player]Anthony Jennings[/player] - Las Vegas - 61%
QB - [player]Branden Lin[/player] - Boise - 56%
K - [player]Branden Eastman[/player] - Texas -41%

Apparently 2019 was not the year of the Branden.[/quote4159ce0]

Very nice to see Spearman voted in. He should be joined by Oberg next season. I'm only left with one questions, [b4159ce0]why would anyone vote against Spearman[/b4159ce0]?[/quote4159ce0]

dola

Exactly my point.
Author:  Fonzie [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:11 pm ]
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And how on earth did 44% of the voters conclude that Branden Lin was unworthy? That's a bunch of craziness right there. :smt017
Author:  Raven Hawk [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:37 am ]
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Fonzie was the only one making a case for Lin, equating a vote against Lin to be a vote for communism.

It appears that we have 7 communists among us. Let the witch-hunt begin.

Other than Jennings, there really weren't substantial arguments made for any player this year. I can take partial blame for that as I didn't get the voting out in the timely fashion that I usually do. This year was a down year in explanations and cases being made.

There are also some amongst the population that buy into the first ballot thing. If they don't think the player is a "first ballot" HOLer, they'll vote no and possibly vote yes the following year.

Just a few explanations.

My thoughts were this:

Golalic - Shoe-in
Spearman - Shoe-in
Lin - Shoe-in
Atkins - Shoe-in
Battle - Shoe-in

Capoccia - Borderline
Jennings - Borderline

Eastman - No Chance

Obviously, I'm also most surprised that Lin didn't make it.
Author:  fantastic flying froggies [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:58 am ]
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Yup, if Lin doesn't make it, I wonder what other QB will?

Oberg? yeah, maybe.
Goodwin? Of course.
Anybody else? No, didn't think so...
Author:  TurfToe [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:07 pm ]
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The HOL is dead to me. If we are just recreating what the game is doing - why bother?

I have 3 retired players who qualify to be in the HOL and could be argued to be worthy. Of the three, the one I consider least worthy is the only one in. That speaks volumes, at least from my perspective.

I have never cared for the whole first ballot thing either. If you are worthy, you get a yes vote. Period. If your numbers need to be dangled in the breeze a few more years then the vote should be no, check back in five years. Then again, I thought the whole point of waiting before being eligible was to give the career numbers some time to cook. First ballot or not is a crock, if you deserve to be honored you are in. If a player is that exceptional that even more fuss needs to be made over their excellence, just put a fez on his bust once enshrined if he really needs to be recognized as better than his HOF peers.

I was sold on the HOL as it being different from the HOF in that it was to celebrate legendary players in the CFL both for searchable statistical value and other hard to capture characteristics. Bullshit.

I have been very inactive in developing characters because I haven't had a player I consider HOL worthy with a hook for a story line. I don't want to waste everyone's time developing a character that dies out as soon as he retires. I also don't want to force a story line that doesn't exist naturally. It's a shame really, as this league needs more Motormouth's and Jackpot's.
Author:  Doug5984 [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:56 am ]
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[quoteae0f4c0="TurfToe"]more Motormouth's and Jackpot's.[/quoteae0f4c0]

That it does
Author:  JJ Smitty [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:14 am ]
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[quotec1ee336="Doug5984"][quotec1ee336="TurfToe"]more Motormouth's and Jackpot's.[/quotec1ee336]

That it does[/quotec1ee336]

I agree, we need more characters like that ..
Author:  Fastcat [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:26 pm ]
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I think a lot of it is owner turnover, some of the new owners wont/didn't vote because they didn't know the player. We could make a veterans committee of the 10 longest serving owners and have them elect a certain # of players they feel deserve the Hall of Legends.
Author:  Cheesehead Craig [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:33 pm ]
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I think that TT's current avatar explains a lot of the feeling about the HOL.
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